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Comments on: defining what you are for (just like porn) https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/ aging idealist. ai and education, open web, open publishing. Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:19:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1 By: Daily Digest for October 4th at Unusual Snack https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-8752 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:19:48 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-8752 […] Shared hughmcguire.net · defining what you are for (just like porn). […]

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-8225 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:40:41 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-8225 thanks mary!

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By: Mary https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-8220 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:01:10 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-8220 I’m new to your blog, and just ran across this post. It’s brilliant. In so many ways. First, my boss (I’m in marketing) preaches that marketing is always and only about knowing “why you’re in the market and for whom.” I like the porn analogy if only because people never get the “why and for whom” adage unless you contextualize it. People always understand porn.

And libraries. I love and honour them. They took care of me when I was young. They tutored me, mentored me, gave me inspiration, music, design, typography, a place to go, and they covered for me when I had to be somewhere else. I think that, in essence, is what the comments here indicate: libraries provide social support and inspiration in the broadest, deepest, and most significant ways possible. They instil respect and reverence and democracy. A library is the power and democracy of language made manifest in tangible form.

Well done.

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5329 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:25:58 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5329 thanks mark, that’s a neat looking doc. looking forward to reading in detail.

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By: Mark K. https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5323 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:41:30 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5323 Just came in on a mailing list…

“An Indiana University report has confirmed the economic value of the public libraries: in Indiana, a total market value of goods and services estimated at $629.9 million and a return of $2.38 on each dollar of investment. The November report, by the Indiana Business Research Center at IU’s Kelley School of Business, concludes that public libraries are a good value, serving as ‘an important channel for literacy, education, and information.'”

http://www.ibrc.indiana.edu/studies/EconomicImpactOfLibraries_2007.pdf

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5302 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:51:37 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5302 Andrew you can have big jugs back.

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By: Andrew https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5297 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:48:10 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5297 Hugh,

I lent you my collection of ‘big jugs’ magazines at Xmas. You said you needed them for a study. Is this study complete & may I have them back?

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By: Mark K. https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5295 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:34:49 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5295 d argue that a compelling case to society at large for supporting a library like ours (where the donors are not typically the users),</i> I'm not familiar with your situation (clearly), but it sounds like you might want to be investigating the feasibility of making changes to your funding model? If you are currently relying on a donor base that is in danger of drying up. <i> is that the work we do to give a public space for immigrants, students, the elderly etc is actually an important part of keeping the city stable.</i> That sounds right to me. I think there's also an efficiency argument to be made: Instead of running to one place for computer classes, another place for job hunting resources, yet another for early childhood literacy support, etc., people can just come to the library. In theory, that saves money (fewer locations to fund) and increases return on investment (easier to match services with target service populations). <i>I bet you’ll find that areas with really vibrant & healthy public libraries have lower crime rates etc. than similar areas without. so I bet there is a connection.</i> I have seen studies correlating strong public libraries with healthy local economies, property values, etc. I'm sorry that I don't have citations off the top of my head, though. @Mat: <i>use social harmony then. good middle ground word.</i> Yeah, "cohesion" and "not antagonistic" are not exactly the same thing.]]> i hope, for the sake of the long-term viability of the atwater library, that you are wrong there.

Oh dear. I hope I’m wrong, too.

so, i’d argue that a compelling case to society at large for supporting a library like ours (where the donors are not typically the users),

I’m not familiar with your situation (clearly), but it sounds like you might want to be investigating the feasibility of making changes to your funding model? If you are currently relying on a donor base that is in danger of drying up.

is that the work we do to give a public space for immigrants, students, the elderly etc is actually an important part of keeping the city stable.

That sounds right to me.

I think there’s also an efficiency argument to be made: Instead of running to one place for computer classes, another place for job hunting resources, yet another for early childhood literacy support, etc., people can just come to the library. In theory, that saves money (fewer locations to fund) and increases return on investment (easier to match services with target service populations).

I bet you’ll find that areas with really vibrant & healthy public libraries have lower crime rates etc. than similar areas without. so I bet there is a connection.

I have seen studies correlating strong public libraries with healthy local economies, property values, etc. I’m sorry that I don’t have citations off the top of my head, though.

@Mat: use social harmony then. good middle ground word.

Yeah, “cohesion” and “not antagonistic” are not exactly the same thing.

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By: Mat https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5290 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:27:32 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5290 use social harmony then. good middle ground word.

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-5289 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:25:08 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2008/01/13/defining-what-you-are-for-just-like-porn/#comment-5289 gah. you’re breaking my theory! (tho i guess the definition of stable is up for debate)….

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