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Comments on: the most famous professor and his students https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/ aging idealist. ai and education, open web, open publishing. Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:47:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Simon Law https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1889 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:47:44 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1889 My memory is completely and utterly useless.

When I was young, I had to write everything down in a notebook or I’d forget it within an hour. Tests that were based on fact recall were the worst, I routinely failed those. Thankfully, I’m not a complete moron so I did quite well with anything I could reason out. I was forced to learn to think quickly.

Much like the invention of writing, the invention of PageRank seems to have accelerated the deterioration of memory. And that’s not so bad, because memory is imperfect. It’s far better to be able to know how to find something you should know and look it up with perfect recall. And then be able to piece that blob of information with a bunch of other blobs of information to get something new.

It frees up the brain from the menial task of digging things out of your messy memory and lets you spend more time thinking about how to combine things you don’t even know with the things you already do.

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By: I never knew » Blog Archive » The most famous professor and his students https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1877 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:56:16 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1877 t understand the environment their students inhabit? It’s always been true to a certain extent, but the disconnect previously was mostly cultural … here it seems to me more environmental, and so fundamental. The mechanisms for communicating is changing, has changed (communicating the big ideas, facts, thoughts, as well as the minutia of of daily lives), and with pervasive computing and constant connection to the web, the way we think is changing too. For better or worse doesn’t really matter, it just will change.—the most famous professor and his students [...]]]> […] How new is it, I wonder, that teachers can’t understand the environment their students inhabit? It’s always been true to a certain extent, but the disconnect previously was mostly cultural … here it seems to me more environmental, and so fundamental. The mechanisms for communicating is changing, has changed (communicating the big ideas, facts, thoughts, as well as the minutia of of daily lives), and with pervasive computing and constant connection to the web, the way we think is changing too. For better or worse doesn’t really matter, it just will change.—the most famous professor and his students […]

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By: linkbizkits » Blog Archive » Students vision of today https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1704 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:34:23 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1704 […] via […]

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1671 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:18:18 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1671 i did get a fair bit of good out my formal education. there is something to be said for being forced to do something valuable that you would never do on your own (say, reading kant; or really working thru an abstract algebra problem, figuring out the proof).

but as james garfield said: “The ideal college is (a good teacher) on one end of a log and a student on the other.”

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By: Chris Hughes https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:49:17 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1669 My thoughts, in no order at all (too much internet!):

Socrates was suspicious of literacy (it seems he was illiterate) claiming that writing things down would weaken people’s memories – and he lived at a time when education consisted of being able to recite Homer. It seems that the Internet is at the other end of this same arc. Or, perhaps not the end.

The only good thing I ever got out of education was the chance to meet some very interesting and clever people, which made me want to be clever too.
But I don’t think I was ever taught anything – I was too arrogant to be taught. All I wanted was access to data – I already knew what I wanted to find out, and knew that if I was left alone with the data for any period of time, I would get there. And the clever people inspired me to want to know the subjects that interested me as thoroughly as they knew the subjects that interested them.
What all this lacked was any desire on my part to make this quest for knowledge applicable to any profession or field. And when my education ended abruptly (due to sudden emigration) I was at a bit of a loss.

Education is this country (UK) is about more than education, as such. Having a degree is a proof of membership of the middle classes. People, 20 years ago, would spend their grants on booze, (having chosen a university on the basis of its social life) and shave a degree in English. They would then use the qualification to get an office job, and never read another book. This always seemed a total waste of 3 years to me, let alone of money, and lecturer’s time.

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1665 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:55:43 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1665 actually thinking hard about getting a masters/phd and going into academia.

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By: Tracey https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1664 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:28:10 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/10/23/the-most-famous-professor-and-his-students/#comment-1664 Would you become a teacher hugh? Hurry up cuz i have one going to uni next year and one entering high school this year and it would be good that the sproutiest of the two gets you as a teacher ;) oh yeah! you met the little hipster!

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