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Comments on: running for office: my platform https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/ aging idealist. ai and education, open web, open publishing. Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:08:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-5265 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:08:35 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-5265 @krashcoarse: ha! thanks …

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By: Krash Coarse https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-5264 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:53:43 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-5264 Hugh, would you seriously consider running somewhere I could vote for you? Like independent for comté de Bellefeuille? Reading this post has been the best 5 minutes I’ve spent politically in years…

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By: Evan Prodromou https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-531 Fri, 04 May 2007 14:20:49 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-531 My understanding of “Je me souviens” is that it was Taché’s family motto, which he lent to the Parliament building that was his personal masterpiece. The apparent meaning of the family motto was, “I remember my friends”; that is, if you’ve been a friend to the Tachés in the past you’re going to be treated right by Tachés in the future.

Je ne suis pas bien attaché aux Tachés, but I figure that’s an excellent sentiment that perhaps Québec should start owning more. We’ve got an strong, secure society that takes care of its own, but there are still some glaring holes that need to be filled. Is Québec remembering its friends among the First Peoples? Its friends in its diverse and multiethnic communities? Its friend in Mother Nature?

Anyways, there’s a lot embedded in that ambiguous motto. It’s probably worth remembering, lest we forget.

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By: Stéphane Z. https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-379 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:45:37 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-379 One of the many interpretation that I heard for the motto is something like « Je me souviens que né sous le lys, je croîs sous la rose ». Even if it’s not official (in the sense that the government of Qc can’t put that on his website) many people, both anglo & franco see it this way.

And the motto is frenquently used by people to express their anger (for example “Je me souviendrai des OGM” of Greenpeace I think to ask for GM being notified and “Je me souviendrai des fusions forcées”. That’s the kind of usage that make the Québec motto such a negatif and backward thing.

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By: Justin https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-370 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:41:29 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-370 “Somewhere between ‘Live Free or Die’ and ‘Famous Potatoes’ the truth lies”

– George Carlin

(Famous Potatoes is Idaho)

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By: zura https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-369 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:30:35 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-369 Yep, you’ve got my vote, too. :)

As for our motto, I never really gave much thought to “Je me souviens”, but I really am not an advocate of living in the pain of the past. I remember when our license plates said “Le belle province”, but I suppose I’d be more inclined to having something pro-active as well as positive, and yet not as overly dramatic as say New Hampshire’s “Live free or die”.

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:44:23 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-368 UPDATE: Hey! They got it on zip.ca… it’s zipped!:
Link

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-367 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:37:41 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-367 matt, i presume that’s available on the NFB’s online archive for free right? or is it on youtube or something??

;-)

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By: matt https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-366 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:06:47 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-366 There’s an NFB doc on this subject:

Je Me Souviens: A License to Remember

A License to Remember: Je me souviens
2002, 51 min 02 s

Abstract
Quebec license plates don’t sport cutesy tourist slogans like “Canada’s Ocean Playground” or “Land of Living Skies.” Instead, they draw attention to the past with “Je me souviens” (“I remember”)–a motto that cuts to the heart of Quebec history and society.
To find out just what “Je me souviens” means to Quebecers, director Thierry Le Brun sets off across the province, license plate in hand. He rides a dog sled, goes ice fishing, visits an emu farm, joins the Carifiesta celebrations and even gets pulled over by the cops. In the process, he meets a cast of characters–both famous and unknown–with wildly differing views on the provincial motto.
Over the course of this illuminating, entertaining and funny documentary, “Je me souviens” becomes a Rorschach ink blot into which Quebecers peer, each bringing their own interpretation. In the process, they can also see each other in a new way, and come to understand the concerns of the many communities that make up their land.

Also available in French
Un certain souvenir

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By: Hugh https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-365 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:49:22 +0000 https://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/17/running-for-office-my-platform/#comment-365 patrick, thanks for the link. i wonder what happens if you ask:

a) an anglo federalist
b) an anglo fence-sitter
c) a recent immigrant (english 2nd language)
d) a recent immigrant (french 2nd language)
e) a francophone fence-sitter
f) a francophone separatist

what does: “je me souviens” mean? curious that the explanation you linked to goes out of its way to essentially say: “we remember all of our history.” but certainly it’s interpreted differently by different groups. in the anglo world it’s seen as i described it … which may be a total misreading, but at least reflects what one group reads it as – an official statement on every license plate that anglos will not be forgiven. which again, could be wrong.

regardless, quebec is this really fascinating political story: a place that got completely transformed in 35-odd years, with a complete shift in power from one group to another. not a drop of blood, all done politically, and for the most part successfully.

My impression is that Quebec has been successful in that transformation phase, but hasn’t really started to ask, “Now What?” yet.

The world of 1970 Quebec is nothing like the world of 2007 … but it seems politics were stuck forever in an old dynamic. Lib-PQ-Lib-PQ…etc. I don’t like ADQ, but at least the last election bashed some of the existing structures, which I think is a good thing.

Now Quebec needs to ask: what are we to become? Not just quebec has changed, the world too is a very different place. i guess because I live on the net, i believe the net is in the process of really changing the world. the connected world anyway. Quebec – because it is small and potentially nimble – could take a lead here, certainly in Canada, probably in the world. will we? how will we deal with the 21st century? lets ask these questions instead of parroting on as the “leaders” did in the last election.

There’s a problem there – worthy of a whole other post – in that English grows in importance with the growth of the net. This is something francophone quebec will have to come to terms with one way or another.

for instance, the last democamp happened (almost) entirely in English…I don’t know quite what to think of that, but it is significant, and potentially problematic. What does it mean? Is it bad? Good? Neither? Does it impact the anglos? the francos? … I don’t know.

Anyway … all this to say, I think it is time that we considered looking to the future rather than focusing on the past.

so: tentative suggestion to replace “je me souviens” … “et, alors, qu’est ce qu’on fait maintenant?”

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