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	<title>Comments on: Democamp - Round-Up</title>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi becky - I sent an email to your address at gmail (is that right), otherwise, feel free to contact me at: hughmcguire AT gmail DOT com...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi becky - I sent an email to your address at gmail (is that right), otherwise, feel free to contact me at: hughmcguire AT gmail DOT com&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.

I'm sorry to contact you here, but I've been trying to get technical help re: Collectik (only a few of my podcasts from my Collectik playlist are showing up in iTunes) and the emails over the past few weeks are bouncing, with this message:  "Technical details of temporary failure:
TEMP_FAILURE: Could not initiate SMTP conversation with any hosts:
[collectik.net (1): Connection refused]"

Is there some other way to reach someone?

Again, I am sorry to contact you here, but I couldn't figure out another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to contact you here, but I&#8217;ve been trying to get technical help re: Collectik (only a few of my podcasts from my Collectik playlist are showing up in iTunes) and the emails over the past few weeks are bouncing, with this message:  &#8220;Technical details of temporary failure:<br />
TEMP_FAILURE: Could not initiate SMTP conversation with any hosts:<br />
[collectik.net (1): Connection refused]&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there some other way to reach someone?</p>
<p>Again, I am sorry to contact you here, but I couldn&#8217;t figure out another way.</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m not dead yet &#187; Billions With Zero Knowledge</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m not dead yet &#187; Billions With Zero Knowledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been too long since my last post.&#160; DemocampMontreal 2 was great and there are a lot of great write ups on it, but the best round up comes&#160;from Josh at Yashlabs&#160;who even [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] been too long since my last post.&nbsp; DemocampMontreal 2 was great and there are a lot of great write ups on it, but the best round up comes&nbsp;from Josh at Yashlabs&nbsp;who even [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, it's gotta be a white label. i wonder if one of these sites/companies would do that for you for free, in exchange for a associate producer credit. or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, it&#8217;s gotta be a white label. i wonder if one of these sites/companies would do that for you for free, in exchange for a associate producer credit. or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah - its hard to say which application will have the most impact.  The submission of material is easy for people to do, and in reality, one of the most useful for me.  But the remixing I think offers the closest we can get, technologically, to a "wiki film".

I'm also interested in the document that will be created from this process, however.  The comments, the submissions, the rants, the arguments - this stuff can't be created by simply making a video mashup.

I'm going to do another round of tweaking the "create" part to see if people get it more.

As far as the technology, i'm hesitant to go for an online editor until I can whitelabel it  -until I can get it within the framework of the site, rather than sending people to another service.  We'll see....there are a lot of products emerging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah - its hard to say which application will have the most impact.  The submission of material is easy for people to do, and in reality, one of the most useful for me.  But the remixing I think offers the closest we can get, technologically, to a &#8220;wiki film&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also interested in the document that will be created from this process, however.  The comments, the submissions, the rants, the arguments - this stuff can&#8217;t be created by simply making a video mashup.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to do another round of tweaking the &#8220;create&#8221; part to see if people get it more.</p>
<p>As far as the technology, i&#8217;m hesitant to go for an online editor until I can whitelabel it  -until I can get it within the framework of the site, rather than sending people to another service.  We&#8217;ll see&#8230;.there are a lot of products emerging.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey brett, our "a lot" of users is not really the case. we have many people signed up, but just a small few of active users. I think turning the ship is essential ... but it's not so much turning as setting off in a specific direction, rather than  goign around in cricles.

I think in the case of opensource cinema, maybe you need to focus more on the mixing and less on the uploading of stuff? so the real focus is:

-help me remix this movie... I think if you could get an online solution (as we discussed) it could really be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey brett, our &#8220;a lot&#8221; of users is not really the case. we have many people signed up, but just a small few of active users. I think turning the ship is essential &#8230; but it&#8217;s not so much turning as setting off in a specific direction, rather than  goign around in cricles.</p>
<p>I think in the case of opensource cinema, maybe you need to focus more on the mixing and less on the uploading of stuff? so the real focus is:</p>
<p>-help me remix this movie&#8230; I think if you could get an online solution (as we discussed) it could really be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh - it was really great getting your honest thoughts on what to do, and what not to do, in starting a new service.  I'm also finding some difficulty with a) my core function and b) getting users to stick.

Since democamp, there has actually been a real fllourish of users on the site.  But they seem to be treating it like a more focused youtube - ie, uploading all their fun videos.  I have no problem with this right now - I think it builds community - but pushing it to the core function of them remixing my stuff is going to take some UI work.  So thanks for your thoughts on that!

Did you find that with already a lot of users, it was hard to turn the ship?  ie, if you don't nail it when the buzz first starts building, you're in trouble?  I just decided to release, because if not I would be tweaking it in a sandbox forever....

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh - it was really great getting your honest thoughts on what to do, and what not to do, in starting a new service.  I&#8217;m also finding some difficulty with a) my core function and b) getting users to stick.</p>
<p>Since democamp, there has actually been a real fllourish of users on the site.  But they seem to be treating it like a more focused youtube - ie, uploading all their fun videos.  I have no problem with this right now - I think it builds community - but pushing it to the core function of them remixing my stuff is going to take some UI work.  So thanks for your thoughts on that!</p>
<p>Did you find that with already a lot of users, it was hard to turn the ship?  ie, if you don&#8217;t nail it when the buzz first starts building, you&#8217;re in trouble?  I just decided to release, because if not I would be tweaking it in a sandbox forever&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: YashLabs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DemoCampMontreal2</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>YashLabs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DemoCampMontreal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 7. Bosko Milekic was happy 8. Hugh McGuire of Collectik 9. Hugh has put up a more extensive write-up on his new site. 10. Alistair Croll has a write-up 11. Roberto Rocha from the Gazette has a Report [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 7. Bosko Milekic was happy 8. Hugh McGuire of Collectik 9. Hugh has put up a more extensive write-up on his new site. 10. Alistair Croll has a write-up 11. Roberto Rocha from the Gazette has a Report [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know they're in stealth. I know of at least 5 cool projects we're waiting to see results from... (one is mine) ... but would be nice to have more to show off now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know they&#8217;re in stealth. I know of at least 5 cool projects we&#8217;re waiting to see results from&#8230; (one is mine) &#8230; but would be nice to have more to show off now.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Nursing</title>
		<link>http://hughmcguire.net/2007/04/06/democamp-round-up/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Nursing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super wrap-up, Hugh. It's valuable also that you are sharing your learning experience along the way in your projects. Thanks for the links.

As for the Montreal developers, I gather they are in stealth mode, waiting for the right moment to pounce on the scene to wow us unsuspecting audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super wrap-up, Hugh. It&#8217;s valuable also that you are sharing your learning experience along the way in your projects. Thanks for the links.</p>
<p>As for the Montreal developers, I gather they are in stealth mode, waiting for the right moment to pounce on the scene to wow us unsuspecting audience.</p>
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